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An interview with Jack Stevens, Senior Product Manager at Publicis Sapient. At the height of the UK's first lockdown, Jack was included in a BBC article "Stress, burnout and redundancy: Tough times in IT" where he spoke about the toxic narrative that we could all get more done from home. We speak about how he got into the article, the reaction to it, his aversion for hustle culture, how his company supported him, and much more.
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About the Episode
Jack is Senior Product Manager for Publicis Sapient, a product consultancy that helps large companies with their digital transformation. Aside from his day job working on a secret project that he can't tell us about, Jack was also featured in a BBC article last summer "Stress, burnout and redundancy: Tough times in IT". I spoke to Jack about a few things:
His work with Publicis Sapient and how they work really hard to be a flat, open company at scale
How SAFe and other scaled agile approaches (probably) can't work
How he got onto the BBC article in the first place, and how the reaction has been
How hustle culture is toxic, mainly a lie, and we just see the survivors who probably succeeded partially through luck
How it's OK for some people to just be OK and not everyone has to change the world to be successful
How his employer reacted after seeing the article, and the support they gave him
How personal hardship has driven his ambitions to work in financial services to ensure people have the right tools to make good financial decisions